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New features to add to POTY 2024

Latest comment: 18 hours ago37 comments10 people in discussion

Many features have been requested to be added to POTY 2024. Here is a quick recap of them as well as new suggestions that I added. Pinging Ingenuity since he's the one that wrote the code. These are just requests/wishes but it doesn't necessary mean that they will be fulfilled :

Edit the script so that the first person to vote doesn't get the file added to it's Watchlist. I had to manually remove dozens of pages from my watchlist because of that in POTY 2023. One easy way to do so would be to have the person who clicks on initialize round 1/round 2 button to be the one to create a blank page. This way only one user would automatically have all the pages in watchlist. This was the solution previously used before the new script.
Make a special page where a user can see all of its votes with the files displayed (because only looking at the contributions you can't see the file directly displayed)
Edit the voting page so that the file that is being voted for can be seen. Compare POTY 2023 voting page example with POTY 2022 voting page example. The explanation text was also nice to have.
Automatically create the "All images" voting gallery for round 1. This was done manually this year.
Automatically add the POTY assessment to each finalist and winner file once you click on the last POTY admin button. This was done manually this year.
Users that go on the Help page and click the green "Click here to ask a question" button are redirected to a page where they can ask their question but where they can't read other users questions before posting it. This results in many persons asking the same question because they were not able to see if someone had already asked that. So adding a direct link to this page might be a good idea.
Automatically create a json file for each month of the year and have voting pages for each files promoted to FP status during that month. This was available previous years and some people expressed their interest for it coming back.
Add a "View votes button" on voting pages. I already wrote down the code to implement this that can easily be copy pasted. This is what the result looks like.
Add a fifth button to the POTY admin interface that ends first round but without automatically starting second round. Round 2 voting page needs to be created (when clicking on "End round 2" new button) but without the possibility to vote before clicking the button "start round 2". This will allow to have a bit of time to check if everything went well with the script when selecting the finalists for round 2. This is especially important as an issue happened this year.
The poty admin script needs to be edited so that when a picture is recategorized, the "category" value of all json files are automatically edited. So for example if an image from another category gets moved to the Arthropods json, not only will the Arthropods json category value need to be edited but also the All data json. If creating new jsons for each months, they will need to be edited as well. This is very important in order to avoid this issue that happened in 2023.
Not only give information about uploader and nominator below each file but also about the author since the uploader is not always the author.
Edit the script so that it ignores the "This is a photo of listed building number 1066500" that many pictures had in the description because of templates such as {{Listed building England}}. Many pictures had that appearing here for example.

Please free to comment to add more features if you have other ideas. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 22:52, 8 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Watchlist: I guess it depends on the preferences whether the page is watched – and one can (but doesn’t have to) set different preferences for page creation and editing existing pages. The API allows overriding the preferences, though it doesn’t have a setting “do as if the page already existed” (but this can be worked around by the script reading the preferences and manually setting the appropriate action). On the other hand, pre-creating the pages is also possible, in which case the appropriate watchlist action is quite clearly not watch regardless of the preferences (one may want to watch all images they voted for, but the person administering the voting won’t want to watch absolutely all images).
Ask a question: I think using DiscussionTools would be a good solution. Compare current experience with DiscussionTools experience (the custom CSS needs to be adapted).

Tacsipacsi (talk) 21:03, 9 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

I copy my thoughts from the section #Problems 2024 above.

Many descriptions contain useless information like "This is a photo of listed building number" (and nothing else), " " (nothing), "This is a digitized image of the original painting ..."
- Switch descriptions according to user language [?] (default to en)
Hovering on images should display some information: either the description or filename. Filename should be displayed somewhere.
Add an option to view images in a "Media Viewer" style (show them in fullscreen + moving to other by arrow keys)
It's a good idea to open links in a newtab, but the middle button/scroll wheel should behave in the same way (actually it doesn't make anything)
It's not clear that clicking on the green vote button again removes the vote.

— Draceane ^talk_contrib. 14:56, 12 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Ingenuity, as 2025 is slowly coming, I have a few questions to you :

Are you willing/available to help with POTY 2024?
Did everything run smoothly when clicking on the four admin buttons during POTY 2023? Do you think someone with no javascript skills would be able to do it for POTY 2024 in case you would not be available?
If you're available to help with POTY 2024, what improvements do you plan to implement in the POTY 2024 script? (You of course don't need to implement all of them, especially if you don't have time or don't think all are necessary)

Thanks in advance for your answers and wishing you nice winter holidays -- Giles Laurent (talk) 08:47, 20 December 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Giles Laurent: it seems that User:Ingenuity has completely stopped contributing to Commons for several months. So that's maybe one less (active) member of the 5-member jury committee. -- Basile Morin (talk) 03:45, 7 January 2025 (UTC)Reply

Ingenuity is a sysop that is active on en wiki. He volunteered to help after seeing how much POTY 2023 was desperate for help. But he never really said if he would only help one time to save POTY 2023 or if he would agree to help for the next POTY editions. He might be too busy to answer right now but he might still be able to help if he has a period of availability in 2025 and if he is still willing to help. So I still have hope for an answer once he'll have time -- Giles Laurent (talk) 12:58, 7 January 2025 (UTC)Reply

Hey everyone. I've been quite busy over the last few months, but I should still be able to help out with this year's contest. I'm not sure if I'll have time to add all of the feature requests listed above, but I would like to implement at least some of them. Ingenuity (talk) 17:45, 8 January 2025 (UTC)Reply

Amazing, thank you for your answer and for your help with POTY 2024 Ingenuity! I look forward to see it happening! :)

Do you already have a rough estimation of what month/season of the year would suit you the best for organizing POTY 2024 given your availability and the time necessary to implement a few features? -- Giles Laurent (talk) 18:23, 8 January 2025 (UTC)Reply

Sorry for the delay in my response, @Giles Laurent. Unfortunately I don't foresee myself having a lot of time over the next few months, but I should be able to put some work into it starting around May. Ingenuity (talk) 04:00, 28 January 2025 (UTC)Reply

Hi Ingenuity, just checking on your present availability. AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 09:09, 4 May 2025 (UTC)Reply

@AirshipJungleman29: just finished university, so I should have more time now. This is one of the projects I want to work on over the next couple months. Does running the contest in July/Aug sound good to everyone? Ingenuity (talk) 17:57, 4 May 2025 (UTC)Reply

Pinging the more regular Commons contributors @Giles Laurent, Basile Morin, Tacsipacsi, and Draceane: it works for me (who has also just finished university!

) AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 18:10, 4 May 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Ingenuity: Awesome, that sounds great, looking forward to hear more updates on POTY 2024! And congrats on finishing university!

Something you should be aware of as it might affect the current code: there's been category edits going on lately. You can find more information on these edits on this page. But maybe they didn't impact the code if they're just subcategories (that can still be merged together via the main category), but I haven't had the time to compare the changes with the code yet and I thought you should know about it just in case!

Also pinging Rhododendrites who's usually been in charge of POTY categories.

(@AirshipJungleman29 thanks for the ping) -- Giles Laurent (talk) 19:09, 4 May 2025 (UTC)Reply

I’ve also finished university – a few years ago.

I have no idea how my summer will look like with travel and work and stuff. However, if I can/need to help, I think that will happen during the preparation phase, not during the contest, so there’s a bit less of time pressure. —Tacsipacsi (talk) 21:20, 4 May 2025 (UTC)Reply

Hi all. Glad to hear folks are already working on this. I do not plan on being involved with POTY this year, but appreciate everyone who's volunteering time to keep it going. I've removed myself from the committee list now (I thought I'd done that months ago, sorry). — Rhododendrites ^talk | 00:20, 5 May 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Rhododendrites: I'm sorry to hear that you've removed yourself from the committee. Thank you for all your years of service!

@Ingenuity, @AntiCompositeNumber, @ZI Jony, @Legoktm : as there is one less member in the POTY committee, do you feel comfortable running POTY with only 4 members or would you guys want a fifth member? -- Giles Laurent (talk) 07:37, 29 May 2025 (UTC)Reply

My availability is about the same as last year. I can help with administrative tasks but am unlikely to be involved in discussions. AntiCompositeNumber (talk) 20:56, 29 May 2025 (UTC)Reply

I am available as earlier, once new features added to POTY script, or Ingenuity conform his timeline for the script upgrading then we would start with/without new features. Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 02:57, 1 June 2025 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for the notification. I wish this new edition every success and thank everyone involved. -- Basile Morin (talk) 00:46, 5 May 2025 (UTC)Reply

Hi all! What about category for Featured media? H. Batuta (talk) 10:09, 28 May 2025 (UTC)Reply
@Giles Laurent: ?? H. Batuta (talk) 17:35, 28 May 2025 (UTC)Reply
Thank you for your suggestion H. Batuta.

Featured media have historically never been included in POTY. But from a technical point of view it wouldn't be impossible to add a category with only Featured media.

I'm neutral on the question wether to add them or not. On the one hand, there's many photo contests with a video category and even Wiki Loves Earth started accepting a video category in 2024. On the other hand the bar to become a Featured media is significantly lower than for Featured pictures because of the lack of participation in the Featured media candidates page.

So I don't have an opinion on the matter right now and I'm fine with having them or not having them.

In any case all I can do is give my opinion and it's only up to the POTY Committee members to decide wether they want to add it to POTY 2024 or not.

@Ingenuity, @AntiCompositeNumber, @ZI Jony, @Legoktm : could each of you tell us if you're in favor or against adding a Featured media category to POTY 2024? Thank you in advance! -- Giles Laurent (talk) 07:52, 29 May 2025 (UTC)Reply

In past years, it didn't make sense to do anything with FMC because it's so inactive. the log pages only includes one page for 2024: January. IIRC that was after a long period of nothing happening because the bot went down and participation fell off a cliff. I see there are a bunch of currently active nominations, but don't know how much activity there was in 2024. FYI. — Rhododendrites ^talk | 14:26, 29 May 2025 (UTC)Reply
All featured media promotions or failures from 2024 can be found on these 6 log pages -- Giles Laurent (talk) 15:22, 29 May 2025 (UTC)Reply
Aha! Thanks. More than I thought. — Rhododendrites ^talk | 15:43, 29 May 2025 (UTC)Reply
Hi Ingenuity! July has rolled around, so we're in the period you suggested we could host the contest. Do you think you're in a position to do the setting up? I think only a couple of things on the "wishlist" above are really necessary. AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 16:35, 1 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
I agree, if implementing new features takes too much time or is too complicated it's better to just have POTY 2024 with the same script as in 2023 instead of having nothing. In any case if you want to add a few features don't hesitate to use some help of ChatGPT with the coding, it can do miracles -- Giles Laurent (talk) 10:24, 2 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
Unfortunately, I won't have access to a computer for the next couple weeks, but I'll be able to make changes after that. We should still be able to run the contest sometime in August. Ingenuity (talk) 20:51, 7 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
Let us know when you're ready Ingenuity. AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 14:28, 21 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
Dear Ingenuity, I hope you are doing well! Have you been able to find time to work on the changes that you desired to make to the code? I believe now is a bit too late to still organise POTY in August because some steps need to be done in advance like requesting CentralNotice (which also requires choosing the dates). Here is a reminder of the steps needed to start POTY. Could you please update us on the situation and give us a realistic date on which you think the code might be ready? Thank you in advance for you answer and for your much appreciated work! -- Giles Laurent (talk) 18:24, 13 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
I started working on this a little while ago, and the code should be ready to go now - I'd still like to add the features you mentioned above, but those shouldn't take more than 2-3 days. We should be good to start planning the rest of the contest any time. Ingenuity (talk) 15:01, 14 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
Awesome, thanks much Ingenuity! Could you please tell us which features exactly you plan on adding? Also, I see no recent edit in the POTY script and the POTY admin script, is it normal?

The most important and critical features that should be added this year are the following:
The poty admin script needs to be edited so that when a picture is recategorized, the "category" value of all json files are automatically edited. So for example if an image from another category gets moved to the Arthropods json, not only will the Arthropods json category value need to be edited but also the All data json. If creating new jsons for each months, they will need to be edited as well. This is very important in order to avoid this issue that happened in 2023 and because this issue will happen again this year if this is not fixed because it is already certain that some recategorizations are needed. Also as I see first admin button was pressed yesterday. But this means that we have to wait for the POTY admin script to be fixed to be able to be able to recategorize these pictures without triggering the same problem as last year.

Add a fifth button to the POTY admin interface that ends first round but without automatically starting second round. Round 2 voting page needs to be created (when clicking on "End round 2" new button) but without the possibility to vote before clicking the button "start round 2". This will allow to have a bit of time to check if everything went well with the script when selecting the finalists for round 2. This is especially important as an issue happened last year.

Thank you in advance! -- Giles Laurent (talk) 18:31, 14 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
I haven't updated those pages yet, but I will do so once I've finished the changes. This is the list of things I'm planning to add:
The watchlist stuff you were talking about above

Special page for viewing your votes (if I have time)

Show the image on voting pages

Automatically add POTY icons to finalists and winners

Create gallery pages for each month (just finished this)

Add a "view votes" button to images

Plus the two things you just mentioned

I'll probably end up making some other small changes as well, but these are the main things I'll work on. Ingenuity (talk) 18:43, 14 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
Terrific! I look forward to see all these features implemented, many thanks to you! -- Giles Laurent (talk) 18:47, 14 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
@Ingenuity, internal and external links in the description are not displaying properly in the gallery page. Also, script doesn't work (showing LOADING) for "Uncategorized and other" gallery page. Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 15:55, 21 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
The uncategorized gallery should work now. I'll submit an edit request for the problem with the descriptions. Thanks for letting me know! Ingenuity (talk) 16:17, 21 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
@Ingenuity, thanks! Its working now. Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 17:21, 21 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Administration / funding / support / stability

Latest comment: 7 days ago3 comments3 people in discussion

Money is not the answer, nor is administration and bureaucracy, nor is building organization where people are able to collaborate as humans in a casual normal natural way.

Nevertheless, Wikimedia Commons is a complicated institution, and in the Wikimedia Movement, Wikimedia Commons is under-resourced, under appreciated, and breaking for lack of maintenance.

In my view, the Picture of the Year competition is one of the most important events in the entire Wikimedia Movement. I would like it to happen consistently at the start of every year without burdening any volunteers who have to devote a heroic amount of time to making it happen.

At Wikimania 2025 this proposal was presented - meta:WikiCoCo. "Coco" is pronounced like "cocoa" for chocolate, and it means the Wiki Commons Coalition. The intent is to establish an entity which can organize people to advocate for Wikimedia Commons in the Wikimedia Movement, and to get funding and staffing to administer key Commons resources and processes. If Coco were established, then I suggest that one of its foundational efforts should be ensuring that Picture of the Year happens smoothly on a schedule, and that volunteers can direct its operations with the support of paid staff under the management of Wikimedia Commons volunteers in the organizational model of meta:Wikimedia Movement affiliates.

I am sharing this idea now because the Wikimania conference was just last week and here we are with another year of Picture of the Year being an amazing program which is beloved by everyone but also a labor challenge to organize. Now is not the time to decide anything, but I would like to ask for comments.

If there were people interested in organizing a volunteer community organization in advocacy of Wikimedia Commons, then under what circumstances would Picture of the Year organizers be willing to accept paid staff labor to help present the POTY event? This assumes that we can come up with money, which I think will need the usual administrative processes which are ongoing for ~100 other wiki community groups.

Thanks. Bluerasberry (talk) 15:57, 13 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Thanks much for your message Blueraspberry, I strongly agree with you that POTY is one of the most important events in the entire Wikimedia Movement and I also would like to see it happen smoothly every year so any help that can make it happen is welcome. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 18:32, 13 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Thanks @Bluerasberry for bringing this up, and I also appreciate @Giles’ note here. I fully agree that Picture of the Year is a highlight for Commons and for the wider Wikimedia community, and I’ve seen first-hand how much dedication it takes from volunteers to make it happen each year.

The idea of having structured support, whether through something like WikiCoCo or another Commons-focused initiative, makes a lot of sense to me, especially if it can help reduce burnout and keep things running on a predictable schedule. Paid staff supporting volunteer-led processes, while still under community direction, could really strengthen the event without changing its spirit.

I’d be happy to join further discussions on how this could be organized, and how we can balance funding, staffing, and community leadership in a way that benefits Commons as a whole. Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 05:42, 15 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

POTY 2024 TO DO LIST

Latest comment: 20 hours ago20 comments4 people in discussion

Task	Status	Remarks
Choosing the dates	Done	Beta testing (all votes cast will be kept) from 12 September 2025 until 14 September 2025 (UTC). Round 1 from 15 September 2025, 00:00 until 27 September 2025, 23:59:59 (UTC). Small break from 28 September 2025, 00:00 until 28 September 2025, 23:59:59 (UTC). Round 2 from 29 September 2025, 00:00 until 11 October 2025, 23:59:59 (UTC)
Update date files	Done	1) Update Module:POTY/state.json with the dates; 2) Create Commons:Picture_of_the_Year/2024/Rules/Time; 3) Create Commons:Picture_of_the_Year/2024/Rules/Time/data; 4) Create Template:POTY2024/state (check different states possibles from this page from "weAreWorking" to "end")
Fix critical script problems	Done	Two critical updates needed to the script
Add other requested features	Done	Optional. Requested features link. Features added to POTY 2024 : link
Get POTY script edit request approval	Done	This edit request needs to be implemented before POTY start Actual status: implemented on 20.08.2025
Add back the missing header	Done	1) Create header for 2024 like header for 2023 ; 2) Add it to the pages.
Create missing pages	Done	Missing 2024 pages: Rules and Help.
Add link to POTY 2024	Done	To do in the POTY general page of all years
Generate galleries	Done
Recategorize pictures		(WARNING : Only do this after this is fixed). UPDATE 20.08.2025: Recategorizations can now start. Pictures to recategorize : all this gallery and any other pictures miscategorized.
Request CentralNotice	Done	Round 1 request
Inform previous voters		Round 1 (Message of 2024, and Targets (6172 users))
Place banners		Round 1
Start round 1
Stop round 1		Small break needed between round 1 and round 2 (1-2 days)
Request CentralNotice	Done	Round 2 request
Inform previous voters		Round 2 (Message of 2024, and Targets (6172 users))
Place banners		Round 2
Start round 2
End contest
Announce winners
Announce result via MMS		Target List
Edit finalist files		Edit each finalist/winner file assessments template according to result with : POTY=f\|POTYyear=2024\| POTY=1\|POTYyear=2024\| POTY=2\|POTYyear=2024\| POTY=3\|POTYyear=2024\|

In order to have a clear view of the steps needed to officially launch POTY 2024 here is the to do list for this year. I hope it helps! -- Giles Laurent (talk) 18:56, 14 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Ingenuity, you have suggested to carry on with the rest of the steps while you finalize the script updates. As you are the one in charge of the script you're the only one who's presence is absolutely necessary during the voting periods so the dates have to be chosen according to your needs. Could you provide dates that would suit you for : a) Beta testing ; b) Round 1 ; c) Round 2? Here is a suggestion (feel free to adjust):

Beta testing (all votes cast will be kept) from 12 September 2025 until 14 September 2025.
Round 1 from 15 September 2025, 00:00 until 27 September 2025, 23:59:59.
Small break from 28 September 2025, 00:00 until 28 September 2025, 23:59:59.
Round 2 from 29 September 2025, 00:00 until 11 October 2025, 23:59:59.

Also please chose if you want these hours to be Central European Time, Eastern Time or any other time -- Giles Laurent (talk) 19:07, 14 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

That works for me, I should be available basically any time after the start of September. Probably makes the most sense to have the times in UTC. Ingenuity (talk) 19:19, 14 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Terrific, many thanks for your availability Ingenuity! Looking forward to have it running!

(I've just done a few steps of the to do list to help things get ready (header added back + missing pages created + link to 2024 version added). Also waiting for a translation admin to fix this but should be done soon) -- Giles Laurent (talk) 19:55, 14 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

(Date files edited and link to the files added in the to do list to remember their existence and to remember doing this step for next years) -- Giles Laurent (talk) 20:23, 14 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

@ZI_Jony, as POTY is now starting in less than a month, could you please:

Create a new message to voters for 2024 based on the 2023 message
Request CentralNotice for round 1 and 2 (only once Ingenuity has finished the script edits in case it should take longer than expected)
Recategorize pictures from this category (but only once this is fixed or else it will create problems)

Thank you in advance and wishing you a nice day! -- Giles Laurent (talk) 20:32, 14 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Giles Laurent, message created and CentralNotice requested. Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 06:56, 15 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Awesome, many thanks ZI_Jony! If you have time don't hesitate to prepare the message for Round 2. Here is how it looked like in 2023.

@Ingenuity please let us know when the POTY admin script is fixed in regards with the possibility to start recategorization without creating a mess in the json files. Thank you in advance! -- Giles Laurent (talk) 20:11, 15 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Giles Laurent done, and for your help! Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 14:45, 18 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Ingenuity, please make sure that all the requested features are added to the POTY admin script so that next year onwards, we can run POTY in February regularly. Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 14:49, 18 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Many thanks ZI_Jony!

As for the edit of the script my understanding is that once the features are added to the script they will be added forever. It means no further delay to start POTY in the coming years (except if we request even more POTY features).

I agree that it would be perfect having POTY 2025 and other future POTYs regularly in February as it makes sense to chose the best picture of the previous year not too late in the following year. Hopefully everything works well and that it will be possible to do it in the future! -- Giles Laurent (talk) 19:39, 19 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

I've completed changes to the scripts - here's a summary:

For admins:

automatically adds winner + finalist icons
separate buttons for preparing and starting second round
creates gallery pages for each month
bugfixes

Main script:

more pages are now translated (including the main gallery page) and available in 18 languages
gallery page now loads category sizes when loading
there's a new table for the candidates promoted in each month
"view votes" button
on each voting page, it shows the image

Please note that the changes won't be visible until the edit request is implemented. Ingenuity (talk) 00:18, 20 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Ingenuity, thanks for your hard work. Giles Laurent, anything else you would like to request to add in the scripts? Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 06:21, 20 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Dear Ingenuity, many thanks for your incredible work! Could you please confirm if "bugfixes" includes a fix that edits the "category" value when recategorizing an image ? So for example if an image from another category gets moved to the Arthropods json, not only will the Arthropods json category value need to be edited but also the All data json and the relevant month it is inculded in for example January json. Does the new admin script take care of editing all relevant three json pages when recategorizing an image? -- Giles Laurent (talk) 07:10, 20 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

As requested by ZI_Jony, here is a list of the remaining requested features/bugfix :

Mandatory to have to start POTY 2024:

poty admin recategorization fix

Optional but good to have during POTY 2024 :

Since the new updated script the number of images in each category is not displayed anymore (compare this previous version with this newer version. The number of pictures in each category is more important than the number of pictures in each month because it has an influence in the number of finalists of each category as only the top 5% of each category are finalists (+top30 overall)
automatically edit the number of pictures in each category appearing on this page when recategorizing an image

Optional and can wait for POTY 2025 to be implemented :

Edit the script so that the first person to vote doesn't get the file added to it's Watchlist. I had to manually remove dozens of pages from my watchlist because of that in POTY 2023. One easy way to do so would be to have the person who clicks on initialize round 1/round 2 button to be the one to create a blank page. This way only one user would automatically have all the pages in watchlist. This was the solution previously used before the new script.
Make a special page where a user can see all of its votes with the files displayed (because only looking at the contributions you can't see the file directly displayed)
Not only give information about uploader and nominator below each file but also about the author since the uploader is not always the author.
Edit the script so that it ignores the "This is a photo of listed building number 1066500" that many pictures had in the description because of templates such as {{Listed building England}}. Many pictures had that appearing here for example.
Users that go on the Help page and click the green "Click here to ask a question" button are redirected to a page where they can ask their question but where they can't read other users questions before posting it. This results in many persons asking the same question because they were not able to see if someone had already asked that. So adding a direct link to this page might be a good idea.

Up to the committee to decide if they want to add this to POTY :

adding a category with all Featured media of that year. I think this could be added for 2024 if there is time but only if the POTY Commitee agreees to have these files included in the contest. I've stated my opinion here but there was no answer on the matter by POTY Committee members.

-- Giles Laurent (talk) 12:19, 20 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

The recategorization bugfix is done, and the watchlist problem is fixed. The reason categories no longer have sizes is because the sizes are added by the script dynamically - they'll still be there. As for the description problem, I unfortunately don't think that's fixable, at least not without quite a bit of work. Ingenuity (talk) 13:03, 20 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Many thanks for your reply Ingenuity. Okay now I understand what you meant by "size" (number of pictures in the gallery), for some reason I was thinking of the files weight and was not understanding that line.

Since the poty admin script is already updated, could you please confirm that it is safe for ZI Jony to start recategorizing pictures and that it will not create problems in the json files? -- Giles Laurent (talk) 15:02, 20 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Yep, go ahead. Ingenuity (talk) 17:55, 20 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

@ZI Jony: FYI Just in case you were going to check all of the bird photos to make sure they were split correctly, I just went ahead and did that -- looks good to me. — Rhododendrites ^talk | 18:14, 20 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Rhododendrites, thanks for your advice, and I appreciate your efforts. We would warmly welcome you if you rejoin the committee. Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 15:01, 21 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Image recategorizations

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Like in 2023, all pictures actually placed in the Uncategorized and other category need to be recategorized in the right category. Examples :

this image needs to be recategorized in the Other birds category;
this image needs to be recategorized in the Plants and fungi category.

ZI_Jony will take care of recategorizing pictures from the Uncategorized and other category but choices of recategorization are not always obvious. For example this image could be recategorized in Other objects or in Natural phenomena. So ZI_Jony feel free to chose a new category for these pictures but also other people feel free to give any suggestion or feedback if in the end you think that a picture has good reasons to be in a category instead of another.

Also please everyone have a look at the multiple categories from this page and please feel free to report here any image that needs to be recategorized since spotting all of the miscategorized images is not an easy task. It will be much preferable to have images recategorized before the start of the contest instead of during the contest (during POTY 2023 many pictures had to be recategorized during the contest). Thank you to everyone in advance for your help! -- Giles Laurent (talk) 18:18, 20 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Here are some pictures from Other animals category that should be recategorized:

this image should be recategorized in the Mammals category
this image should be recategorized in the Mammals category
this image should be recategorized in the Passeriformes category

-- Giles Laurent (talk) 18:25, 20 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

These images are currently in the people and human activity category, but actually show racing cars, so they should be in transport and vehicles:

[1], [2], [3]

--Kritzolina (talk) 23:53, 20 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Kritzolina, thanks! Those actually come under transport and vehicles. Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 15:44, 21 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

@ZI Jony, thank you! And this one, currently under Natural Phenomena probably SHOULD be in People and Human Acitvity: [4]

@Giles Laurent, only "Other animals" category done. Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 15:58, 21 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Some images which are currently listed on Commons:Picture of the Year/2024/Gallery/Constructions and buildings fit better into Commons:Picture of the Year/2024/Gallery/Religious architecture:

The following image which is currently listed on Commons:Picture of the Year/2024/Gallery/Constructions and buildings fits better into Commons:Picture of the Year/2024/Gallery/Castles and fortifications:

File:Burg Thurant im Morgennebel.jpg

The following image which is currently listed on Commons:Picture of the Year/2024/Gallery/Constructions and buildings fits IMHO better into Commons:Picture of the Year/2024/Gallery/Settlements:

File:1007 Graslei, Clock tower of the Post Office, Church of Saint-Nicolas in Ghent and Belfry of Ghent Photo by Giles Laurent.jpg

Best, – Aristeas (talk) 15:14, 21 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Aristeas, done. Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 15:41, 21 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

@ZI Jony: Thank you very much! – Aristeas (talk) 16:57, 21 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Many images which are currently listed on Commons:Picture of the Year/2024/Gallery/Other places can be moved to the architecture galleries. The following list is not complete:

Hope it helps, – Aristeas (talk) 11:13, 22 August 2025 (UTC)Reply